here's the real simple version of the complicated doctrine of when jesus supposedly returned and the last days arrived/ended/started.
william miller said that jesus' return would be in 1844.
(see the great disappointment at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/great_disappointment ) people who believed what he said were known as "millerites.
Its interesting how many individuals cant definitely separate the commercial aspect of this organized religion, in how
the leaders of the WTS. had always exploited the established belief in the bible to help propagate their own published literature.
It highlights both freedom of religion and capitalism in its purest sense when you think about it.
I think Russell was probably the least harmful, he seemed to be more of a business tycoon focusing more on circulating his
own published literature as his natural profession was a salesman. He played more of an opportunistic role as some important messenger toward
the public, selling his books and shinning a light on himself at the same time.
Rutherford was more of an egotistical power getter who stepped over many just to set himself into power.
But he too as it was shown was just as under handily devious when it came to selling the Watchtower's literature and propelling
himself up as someone specially chosen by the Almighty as the true voice of god.
But lets face it folks they were book and magazine peddlers, they were driven to sell whatever they printed, in light of this
it isn't really too surprising then that they were full of misinformed bullshit. People write things knowing beforehand how well their writings are going to sell
this is true even in the religious field of literature. It was these particular mens ideas that the gospel of Christ could be sold well if it was done
in a certain way..........and they were absolutely right.
behtel has workers who are paid basically nothing!
a small "re-inbursment" for expenses.
prison is the same...making license plates for $2 dollars an hour....mc donalds resturants are not far behind.
Yes people there are being used and exploited just like the millions of JWS around the globe are.
It was the disingenuous intension even back in Russell's day to try and find ones to exploit in circulating
his literature, a true scam artist if there ever was one. Remember the end was so very near even back then
so they must hurry and spread the good news with the motivational drive to save lives.
It still works today for the International Publishing Corporation so I guess why change it.
the following notes on fred franz's conducting of the morning bible discussion [17 november 1979] were taken by a bethelite and later given to ray franz:.
some persons are now talking about reading the bible, that we should read "just the bible.
" well, that's what christendom's churches have been telling the people to do for centuries and look at the mess that's resulted.
To make money through literature sales, " The Society " is actually a religious publishing company that creates
sales and its wealth $$$ by the pursuing indoctrination of its members by use of subjective fear and coercion.
Thats the hidden real agenda and it has been this way since the first Professional salesman started it over century ago. ( C.T. Russell )
The information from a top the Watchtower was bullshit but nevertheless it did indeed sold well
as jws, we were in bondage to the organization, its rules and its whims.
now, we do not have to follow their direction and believe that whatever we were being told was by "theocratic" arrangement.. so, what freedoms do you have now that you have been liberated?.
Analytical thought pursued by curious investigation to achieve a balanced sense of reasoning..
The typical mantra from the leaders of the JWs is to don't question just obey us and good things will happen to you.
In matter of fact they purposely instill a sense of fear upon anyone questioning what they say and put forth.
Its that we are god's personally directed organization so questioning us is tantamount to question god himself.
In other words do exactly what we say or we will kick you out of god's organization and your own destruction is eminent.
In practical sense they've created themselves their very own kingdom where they themselves are the designated rulers of this kingdom.
The biggest freedom that I personally enjoy is really knowing the truth about life itself and about the very world we live in.
I enjoy living outside the huge walls of the Watchtower kingdom in pure freedom away from the mental slavery within it.
from whom are they taking the lead?
does that mean that the previous leader is not leading anymore?
moses is used as an example when he appointed "chiefs" over different groups of isrealites.
Yes its always beneficial for mankind to obey ignorant poorly educated powerful old men, just like the GB members,
who of course get their power and guidance from reading what people did and thought 2000 years ago.
there have been a number of developments over the past few months and they paint an interesting picture.. witnesses can keep dragging themselves to meetings ad infinitum however, the future of the watchtower itself is another story.
the evidence of continuing cash flow problems is now overwhelming.
if you talk to well placed witnesses, most won't deny it but simply blame it on the publishers financial problems.. they have cut off loans to congregations many of whom genuinely need new kingdom halls.
A GB member asks " Is it possible to turn back time to let say 1914, it would really help out the organization ! "
as reported on cnn......the end is sooooo near.
so far no one reported dead.. i am sure my wife, after attending the meeting tonight and the assembly this weekend will make a mention about this being another sign the end is so close....
Funny there have been earthquakes constantly over the earth for millions of years, most have
actually formed the earth's most noted mountain ranges, does this mean the end was near back millions of years ago too ?
Stupid people think stupid things don't they, I guess thats derived from reading what people from ancient cultures knew
about this earth thousands of years ago. And they say a lack of education never hurt anyone.
there have been a number of developments over the past few months and they paint an interesting picture.. witnesses can keep dragging themselves to meetings ad infinitum however, the future of the watchtower itself is another story.
the evidence of continuing cash flow problems is now overwhelming.
if you talk to well placed witnesses, most won't deny it but simply blame it on the publishers financial problems.. they have cut off loans to congregations many of whom genuinely need new kingdom halls.
Could Watchtower Collapse Be Sooner Than You Think?
I certainly hope so, but realistically there seems to be growing and longing consciouses about the faith in general thats accumulated
over the years with many long time members in that how come the end hasn't arrived yet when there were so many promises laid
out that most JWS believed so much in and surrounded their lives with.
In another way to look at some folks spent years studying the Organizations literature only to realize most of it untrue and misinformative.
The writers of the WTS. have for over a century unscrupulously exploited the belief in the bible to help propagate their own literature.
People within the organization are starting to become aware of that ever more so, with the help of outside fractions like the inter-net and others.
I don't believe the WTS. will collapse abruptly but rather a slow decline , a reworking of the stated doctrines is probable in the future to
down play their apocalyptic ideological push from the past, call it JWS - lite if you will.
Easier to swallow and much lighter on the waste line.
if a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.
if not........................ kt.
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Pretty stupid to actively support and back the social morals laws designed and orchestrated 2000 years ago
by the ancient Israelites ......isn't ?
There are other words to describe this but I'll just hold my tongue for now.
